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Partners for almost twenty years,
Wong and Morgan were the creators of the cult series "Space:
Above and Beyond." They also co-executive produced two
seasons on the Emmy nominated and Golden Globe Award-winning
series "The X-Files", and served as executive producers on the
drama "Millennium."
Glen Morgan and James Wong's partnership began when the two
became friends at El Cajon High School in San Diego. The pair
joined a comedy improv group in La Jolla, California, performing
alongside comics like Whoopi Goldberg, before entering the communication
arts department at Loyola Marymount University. After graduating
from Loyola Marymount in 1983, their partnership was firmly
established when they co-wrote the hard-hitting feature film
The Boys Next Door.
Director/screenwriter Glen Morgan makes his feature directorial
debut with Willard. Recently, Morgan produced The One, starring
Jet Li, and Final Destination. Both films were directed by his
writing/producing partner, James Wong.
It is almost impossible to imagine anyone but Crispin Glover
in this movie. How did you come to cast him?
James Wong: When we started this project, we had three people
we thought would be right for the role. One was an actor we
had previously worked with, Doug Hutchinson, who was Percy in
The Green Mile. The other was Crispin, and the third was Jeremy
Davies. We thought that of those three, we started with Doug,
but when things didn't work out that way, New Line started throwing
in more of the leading man-type actors.
Who else did they mention?
JW: Mark Ruffalo. Joaquin Phoenix. Which would have been perfect.
But much bigger names than would do this movie, I think. One
of the executives (at New Line) actually called this agent,
I don't remember who it was - not Crispin agent - about another
actor, and he said, "Well, would you and Glen be interested
in Crispin?" And he said, "Oh, my god, if Crispin was in this
movie, I'd see it 75 times and still not be satisfied." And
I think that is what put an idea in New Line's head, and they
agreed to Crispin.
Glen Morgan: We had been told by other people, You'll never
get this film done if you use Crispin. He's crazy. So, actually
we went with Jeremy Davies first, just because of the unfortunate
reputation he (Crispin) has. So Jeremy actually came to my house
while he was reading for this (Charles) Manson movie, and he
looked just like Charles Manson. And I couldn't get by it. Get
out of my house! (laughter) And Doug Hutchinson is a friend
of ours, and we talked to him about it, but - how do you term
it? - we just lucked out. Because there was that point when
I couldn't picture anyone else but Doug. But now I'm so thankful,
because I can't picture anyone else but Crispin.
You've probably seen how the trailer plays? When the audience
sees Crispin, they go nuts!
GM: We shot that subway stuff in New York, down in Queens.
It was a very small unit. Yet there was still a crowd there
with their George McFly things. (laughs)
With the homage to Bruce Davison in the film, was there
ever any thought of also bringing Ernest Borgnine onto the project?
GM: Lee would have beat us up. (Laughs) For me, the original,
it was the two of them. But (with Bruce) it's the title character,
and I don't know, we just went with it. We called his agent,
and I said, Look, out of respect for the first movie, could
we use him? A friend of ours said He should be the dad! So we
called the agent, and out of respect, can we use his image.
And the agent said "Duh duh duh, is there any money for this?"
And we said, "No, it's just a respect thing." And he said, "Okay,
no, bye!" but the agent must have still gone to Bruce, because
he was great. He sent all these family photos. And I've still
never met him, and it's a big moment to have Bruce Davison say,
Hey, you did a great job.
As a childhood favorite of mine, why didn't you recreate
the party disruption scene and the mother's weird friends?
GM: I drew a lot from the novel. In the novel, he went to get
the boss' tires. I thought that was more a guy... That one shot
of the neighborhood that Willard appears in, I would like it
if one day you looked out your window.... And I thought the party
scene in the original was pretty funny, you have women jumping
up on the tables and rats flying all over the place. I don't
know how they learned to leap like that!
How did you come to differentiate the rat's personalities?
GM: I think a lot of that is editing. That just goes to the
whole, that kind of, well, the dove can't put a bowl of soup
in front of somebody, so if Willard's afraid of Ben, and you
cut to just a rat, he looks a little scarier.
JW: We did some facial enhancements with CGI. The Ben rat
is an African Gamby rat, which are twice as big as the rat we
know and love. But they had a tendency to have round eyes and
big ears, and when you shoot them up close, they looked kind
of cute. So, in the close-ups of Ben, we went into the computer
and made their ears more pointed and made their eyes more squinty,
to make them look less cute.
What is the breakdown of real rats versus CGI versus animatronics?
GM: My hunch is that it is about 80 percent to 85 percent real
rats, and the rest CGI or animatronic. When we started, we didn't
know what would come through. Because all the CGI guys were
saying, Oh, we'll take care of it. And the animal guys are saying,
We can do that. And the puppet guys are saying, We'll do that.
So we went through it figuring at least one of them was gonna
work.
JW: We went totally three-prong. We spent the money and paved
the way for whichever method would work. And with the exception
of the massive amount - we had 550 rats Ü and when you put 550
rats in this room, they only take up this much space. (Indicates
small area of about 5 feet with his hands) They really clump
together quite a lot and crawl all over each other, because
they don't like to spread out. Their instinct is to band together.
So in the mass shots where you see a lot of rats, that is where
the CGI came in, to duplicate and multiple the rats. Because
in the shots where you see lots of rats, that would really represent
thousands and thousands of rats. That's maybe 2,,000 or 3,000
rats we would have needed. Aside from the massive rat scenes
you see, there was maybe 15 or 20 seconds of animatronic rats,
and the rest of the shots are the real actors.
What made you want to remake Willard?
GM: My dad always watched the Universal monster movies, and
would say, The best monster doesn't want to be a monster! He
also took me to all the Hammer movies, and then when we saw
Willard.... You know how you kind of rooted for Willard, but
then when he screws Ben over, you kinda of root for Ben? That
as the first time in any movie as a kid....that was my first
character arc. (Laughs) You're a dumb kid and you go, Oh that's
interesting. And it always sort of stuck with me. The sort of
lonely person or alienated person. And the theme of, Don't become
what you hate.
JW: Don't become what you hate is pretty apropos for the times
that we live in. I think that is a really important theme. And
Crispin agreed.
GM: Neither the novel nor the first film - we had a little
attempt at explaining where the rats came from - but Crispin
said the rats just sort of appear. It is almost like they are
a manifestation of this guys anger and frustration, and if you
keep that in check, it literally eats you. And I thought that
was really smart.
The film is very much like Psycho and The Birds. It is also
very similar to Hitchcock in terms of the emphasis on humor,
and it is very much like a black comedy.
GM: That was our X-Files always had. Starting out with my dad,
like Bride of Frankenstein, which is probably the first horror
comedy. Then I've read Hitchcock called Psycho a black comedy,
and you watch those things again with that in mind and you go,
Yeah, wow. It is just the kind of tone that we do well.
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