So when
you were shooting, you had monitors with different units - even
ones that were far away?
Yeah. I remember one time we were shooting at the foot of
a volcano in the middle of the north island - which actually
erupted while we were doing post on The Frighteners and almost
delayed the movie getting out - we were at the base of this
volcano which had actually been an army base and we came in
and cleaned it out. Pete's shooting a very significant fight
sequence for the third movie and there are lot of actors and
stunt guys around and there's a lot of background guys. That's
a complicated thing to shoot - three cameras, a lot of choreography,
a lot of dialogue involved - there's a lot going on to make
sure it's right.
While he's doing that, there's another guy to his left shooting
a little moment from film number one. And there was me up on
this rise filming something from film number three. I had two
cameras and he had two cameras - all told Peter had like seven
monitors in front of him. And I'd shoot something, and sure
enough - after three takes, I'd get a radio: "Hey Rick,
that was great - just do a little of this and we can move on."
It was amazing. And it was always really relaxed. To me - I
don't know how he was able to keep track of everything.
Does pre-viz help bring these longer DVD cuts together
since you have to add stuff back to the footage that was cut
for the theatrical cut?
We haven't really used it in that way - it hasn't been necessary.
The extended cut - it's been different on every picture, and
it will be interesting to see what happens on film three, but
Peter knows what he's putting back in because he was going through
that process when he was cutting the original. In that sense,
no. He already knows what he's putting back in. Granted, he
has to finesse it a little bit to make it fit in the film, but
it's not like he has to go back to those original things. Pre-viz
is usually done at the same time as principal photography, so
by this time it's been a few years. Even WETA does its own Imageworks,
he only maybe incorporates if the shot isn't done and he's waiting
on a temp. Then he'll grab that.
Working with someone as creative as Peter Jackson -
does it ever make you want to go off and do something yourself?
I definitely just want to produce. It was a great experience
doing whatever you want to call it - I did it for 15 weeks.
The actors were really kind to me - let's face it: They signed
on to work with Peter Jackson. And to come over to a blue screen
stage and shoot just part of an element - that can get kind
of tedious at times - but they were really great. It was a good
process.
I just have more respect for the kind of decisions someone
like Peter has to make. It was amazing the amount of visual
attention he had. He never forgot anything. If I ever had a
question, he had an immediate answer - we're talking
over three movies. He could be shooting something from film
one and I'd be doing a plate from film three and he was
always on top of it. I thought that was impressive, considering
the strain he was under - the long hours. And also, he
was one of the writers, so if there was another round of rewrites
that had to go out that night, he was in on that. He wasn't
just waiting to show up.
It was always very impressive that he could keep track of all
these things at once - and with such grace. He wasn't
a screamer - he just works hard and throws a lot of humor
into it. And that really trickled down to the rest of us.
Has your experience on Lord of the Rings ruined future
experiences for you?
I hope not. It's been pretty amazing. I was lucky enough to
work for Zemeckis and he made some pretty amazing movies while
I was there - Forrest Gump, Contact - I remember thinking that
when Gump was out - we called it a ‘little epic'. Lord
of the Rings really kept getting bigger and bigger. It was quite
an experience.
We were blessed, though. Even though it was pretty insane and
three movies at once, that created a timeframe that allowed
things to evolve, and I think we were really saved by that ability
to evolve over a long period of time.
Were they any projects you had to miss out on while
you were on Lord of the Rings?
I was just talking to my friend Steve, who is now a co-producer
on Polar Express - when he was in Fiji on the beach shooting
Castaway - he was trying to make it sound really tough,
being in the water all day long. Sometimes I was a little envious
of that when we were out freezing. It was such an amazing experience,
shooting on the sides of mountains - it's something
I'll never be able to compare.
What are you doing next?
Don't know yet. I'm taking some time off. I'd
love to work on Kong, but I've been away from my family
too long - I was there six years!
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