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Charlie's Angels films are filled with a tumble of pop
cultural references. But one of the frequent criticisms is that
such an approach tells us nothing about the human condition.
How would you respond to that viewpoint?
When I was younger and I was in school, I wanted to be a psychiatrist
and I was studying philosophy very deeply and I found myself
becoming increasingly unhappy. And just as I was getting into
sort of Locke and Hume and I was studying Nietzsche to a degree,
the more I said, look, I'm really passionate about music, I
like the way it makes me feel, I'm very passionate about film,
I like how I can lose myself and become immersed in a picture
when I go to the theater for two hours. I got more and more
excited about that and let go of some of my philosophical dwellings
and I've strangely become a happier person for it. And I mean
it is just an approach to living, because I'm very cognizant
of different philosophical takes on the life experience, but
I've been unsuccessful in trying to unravel the mystery of life.
So I try to press the pleasure buttons in what I'm doing in
my day-to-day life.
You mention in your commentary something to the effect
of, “If you hate yourself, then you'll hate Charlie's
Angels.”
I just think it is a film that requires some sort of inner
acceptance to know what we're actually going for, to take a
deep breath and let go of sort of cinephile attitudes and just
enjoy it for what it is. And strangely, I've found there's a
direct correlation between the more intense the film fan, the
more likely he or she is to actually embrace the picture.
I've heard from Martin Scorsese to Terrence Malick to just fabulous
filmmakers that I respect and they've shared their enthusiasm
for the picture because these guys, they understand what it
is, and naturally they know I'm not trying to threaten or challenge
or in any disrespect what they're the masters of, so they take
it for what it is and they enjoy themselves and they have fun
with the performances.
This summer a lot of analysts like to talk about the
declining box office for big event movies like Charlie's Angels.
I think that's very fair. It is always tricky to make a sequel
that ignites the passion of the public. And we worked really
hard to make it happen...look, the truth is we feel like
our film was a big success because a $100 million domestic box
office, that doesn't grow on trees. And we're over $250 worldwide.
However, I've got to be honest with you, we're all disappointed,
because we wanted it to have even more of an impact on the public.
And who knows? Maybe it was because the public felt like they
could participate in the franchise with all the coverage the
girls were getting and just what a high profile we had going
in that they felt that they didn't necessarily even need to
get off the couch and go see the movie. But I don't know, that's
just the mystery of the movie business. Sometimes you capture
lightning in a bottle and sometimes it eludes you, and you know,
this is one has just been a little bit of a bittersweet symphony.
What do you think is the future of big event movies?
Oh, I think that there will always be the tent pole movies,
the event movies, but you can't just jam the public with Oh,
here is a giant idea, or this is a video game that sold X amount
of copies, or this is a best-selling book, or this is a fantastic
comic character. I think that it's got to be more than that.
I think that the bullshit detector of the public is more finally
honed than it ever has been with so many outlets for media,
with 1000 satellite channels and every mall in America looks
like Disneyland, and you know, there's just so much going on
that you can't just release a movie, put a star in it, and expect
everybody to come out in throngs.
You have to be very clever and you have to make films that
people care about and people react to. And I think you see stuff
like My Big Greek Wedding that just captured the imagination
of the public and went crazy, and then you see something like
Spiderman that is a film very much designed to come in above
the radar, but satisfied on an emotional level and therefore
was very, very big. Same with Lord of the Rings pictures.
Do you think that's what happened with your movie,
that there was a little too much bullshit as you say?
Well I don't know if there was too much bullshit, but there
was a great deal of exposure, and maybe people just sort of
felt satiated when the picture came out. You know what I mean?
And it's not like the picture fell on its ass, we're pleased
with what it did, but naturally we were hoping to do a little
bit better. And who knows, it's very difficult to quantify.
If we had the answers then boy, would we be a valuable marketing
research team.
One of the accusations leveled at Full Throttle was
that it might have been that you tried to do too much bigger,
louder and better.
That's an excellent point. Maybe we did. Maybe we pushed too
hard in that respect. But you know, I think you have an obligation
to your audience to try to improve upon the original in any
respect. I think that's successfully done in Godfather II. I
think it's very successfully done in Terminator 2. And we used
those two models as our examples and we did the best we could.
And you know, I think the girls are proud of it, and I'm proud
of it, and you know, like I said, we're it's hard to hang your
head on if you make two pictures and you're north of $550 million
in box office. I mean that's not a bummer, but I'm also honest
in saying that we were hoping it reacted even more at the box
office this go round.
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